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Communities are determined by what they tolerate: Neighbors stay organized in opposition to Baker's

Last night about 30 residents gathered for a final rally to oppose Baker's relocation and to turn people out to the zoning board hearing coming up on August 20th.

A few years ago I was helping some local churches and neighborhood groups on an effort to relocate an adult book store that was just one block away from a local elementary school.  The community had high poverty rates and dozens of abandoned buildings and residents felt that cleaning up the business strip could help stabilize and revitalize the area. At a planning meeting, one of the residents asked how it was even possible that an adult book store would land up a block away from an elementary school in the first place.  He said, "I am sure this would never happen in the wealthy township just a few miles away."

I responded, "You are exactly right.  It is because that community is organized and what happens in neighborhoods is determined by what people tolerate.  And people know that low income communities tend to be the least organized so they are the first place they look to plant these kind of businesses."  Our quality life is inexorably tied to the strength of the communities we live in and to the extent that they are organized.  In the last few decades, many people have flocked to gated communities in attempt to protect their quality of life through isolation and restriction of who comes and goes.  But I would argue that gated communities are not the solution.  The solution is vibrant community organization that brings together diverse people around a common vision of a healthy neighborhood.

The campaign opposing the relocation of Baker's is both about the necessity of upholding the zoning law but it also about every day people shaping the kind of community they want to live in.  And ultimately, the City of Kent will thrive or fail on the quality of its neighborhoods not its downtown.  There are some who say that residents should "compromise" with Baker's Towing and that we are being unreasonable by asking that the zoning code be enforced and followed.

When is it o.k. to compromise the health of your neighborhood?  The safety of your children?  The stability of your property values?  The right to live on a quiet and peaceful block?  The zoning law that we all created to protect neighborhoods?

The answer is that it is never o.k. to compromise on these basic values.  Communities are determined by what they tolerate and asking us to tolerate the change of use of a residential property to an industrial purpose is something that no neighborhood should accept.  The truth is that there are plenty of other properties for Mr. Baker to rent in the region.  The City of Kent and others have multiple options for him if he would pursue them.  And he is not the owner of the property that he is trying to move to.  Tim Crock, who is a wealthy businessman, owns the property and neighbors have reached out to him to help him find a tenant that fits the zoning code.

Mr. Baker has had the decision on his application delayed two times allowing him to continue to illegally operate for nearly 3 months on a residential block.  It is time for this issue to end and for Mr. Baker to move to an industrial zoned lot that supports his business.  Please come and join us on August 20th at the City Council Chambers for the next Zoning Board of Appeals meeting.  Stand with us for great neighborhoods in Kent.

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Molly August 16, 2012 at 09:54 am
I did not ask for your "point of view" I asked for facts. As I said, should be a simple question...
Tiffany Jones August 16, 2012 at 11:34 am
When I first heard of this situation, I thought, "WOW, who cares?" Then as I started to hear more, I decided I should look into it; If all of these neighbors were so upset maybe there was something there. I did some reading and questioning. I kept receiving mailings, that grew more ardent in their claims. The methods used by the "concerned" to garner support grew but their claims never gave me the "aha!" moment where I finally said "ok now I understand" instead they just began to show this "hood" in it's true colors. While my comments have been rebutted, my questions still remain. Why is the neighborhood so organized around this issue? Why has crime (there have been numerous in this area in the past few years), Safety(speeding and stop signs, especially), Tragedy (I know first hand of some neighbors that could of used assistance in the past few years) or just good old fashioned neighborliness not been enough to galvanize such a movement? Why now? Why this? At the end of the day no one will tell me, and I will make my own assumptions, and right or wrong, they will not matter. This issue will not be decided via a public vote. Majority may or may not rule here. But the majority of my neighbors, at least the vocal ones, have made a difference. They have shown their true colors. They have shown how quickly they will support attacking a man's livelihood, for reasons they themselves may not even understand, all in the name of "community". Good Luck to ALL!
Traci Monroe August 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Why are you assuming that it was changed to R3, maybe it was never changed, maybe it has always been R3. Just because someone builds a commercial building does not mean that the lot underneath it is zoned commercial. Call the zoning office!!
Traci Monroe August 16, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Did Mr. Noden put up the fence or was it put up by the previous owners of the property?
Dan the Butcher August 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Hey, the neighbor day is a great is a great idea. A barbeque is likewise a great idea, the neighbors will be able to feed the workers and their families whom they've left bereft of a livelyhood. Working on cars is at least honest work, I mean its not anything important like community organizing or anything. For poor underserved unions or anything (google kirk), but... What I want to know is where were the neighbors when a biker lived in Bakers (at the time the previous owners) building, and caused a ruckus, drinking all night and reving motorcycle motors. Or does that comply with zoning? How about all the trash and old vehicals Baker cleaned up. I recall an old pick-up that had been there 6 or 7 years? And when I say garbage I mean used condoms, and diapers, and burn marks (from bonfires) and beer botles from the college kids next door, and unhygenic deutritus, and years worth of dead leaves and sticks, and they cut the freaking grass, planted flowers, started cleaning up the building. And I saw the trash in question. Sure Bakers is having an impact on the neighborhood. More of an impact than the previous degenerate tennants. A postive impact. Talk about communities being ruined- Bakers is like a family and they are under assault by santimonious hypocrites who won't compromise for any reason, why, because of a "slippery slope" mentality. "Oh, if we let him in other businesses will want in too." Where. In what building. Jack Crows? Or Lee's? or Kent Cycle? Hey, whens dinner.
Teresa K. August 16, 2012 at 01:37 pm
Tiffany:
IF you knew that before Mr. Crock bought the building, Baker's was told they needed a non-conforming cert to OPERATE, would that help you understand why people are upset?
Teresa K. August 16, 2012 at 01:53 pm
@Duck: on the fence. I am Mr. Noden's neighbor. I know where all four of my property posts are. They have been in the same spot for over 15 yrs. From what I know of MY lines, their fence is ok. I'm sure a reputable surveyor. one for the county maybe, can sort the whole street for us if need be.
I heard a story 'round these parts of right-of-ways skewing the property lines... one up to 5 feet. I'm not sure whose property that is....
Dan the Butcher August 16, 2012 at 03:12 pm
Not to beat a dead horse, but according to the STATE LICENSED surveyor Baker had come out, its pretty clear where the property lines fall. I think that Mr. Nodens fence being on 638 property is truely peotic justice. The only unfourtunate aspect is that Kirk's biggest worry will be if Bakers makes him move his fence, not wether or not he'll have to worry how to feed his family, and if he'll find a new job in this worst of wintery of economic climates. If there is NO other reason to back off Bakers, how about good old fashioned brotherly love, huh? It's like the American Legion during the Depression buring down Hoovervilles and beating and driving out tansient trying to survive. The neighbors will have to face up to the fact that they are putting their petty wants over the direct needs of others. I did not know that Americas had degenerated so far that property rights were seen as "I am entitled to have my land appreciate in value in the way I see fit..." instead of "We are guaranteed the open framework to persue our best interests on our land so long as the property of others is not encroached upon." The latter is an affirmative arguement. I would like to see evidence that Bakers was ruining the neighborhood (when it looks like they are trying to improve the area). Zoning allows for variances because zoning can NEVER be perfect, and compromises need to be struck so ALL citizens have a fair shake. Don't forget Baker is a man, who also has rights to his property too.
joe collins August 16, 2012 at 03:45 pm
So as I drive up steele st I noticed kirk noden has a roof sign up in his yard hmmm maybe the found was or is going to spent on a new roof. Wonder whom holds the books.
Dan the Butcher August 16, 2012 at 07:15 pm
Upon further reflection (and sorry for any typos in previous posts) I had to try to put this unfortunate debate into context. I can appreciate why the zoning at 638 was changed, in order to create a buffer between heavy industrial and residential neighborhoods. The point that the neighbors make IS valid. Baker is the first to acknowledge that these homeowners have a right to protect their investment. Zoning variances exist for exactly the type of situation that Mr. Baker finds himself in. The building is clearly designed and used in a commercial capacity, yet the zoning was changed from the original industrial. Fair enough. Baker wants to have his business in the building, and is willing to make accommodations in order to maintain the integrity of the street. He is willing to have reasonable business hours, cleanup the property, and beautify the building, not park his dump trucks on-site, not attempt to impound cars at 638, properly dispose of hazmat materials (which he always has done), not keeps parts cars (i.e. junk yard) vehicles on site, add landscape features to obstruct the view of the parking lots, fix the parking lot, and renovate the building (inside) to be more appealing to customers and neighbors. Any delays in these plans stem from an unwillingness to throw money into a piece of property one cannot use (due to the escalating situation with the neighbors) and not because of any bad-will on the part of Mr. Baker.
Dan the Butcher August 16, 2012 at 07:36 pm
I read a suggestion about greenspace. Not a bad idea, but why did no one push for that years ago? Does anyone realize the amount of money required to buy the property, raze the buildings, and install a park (or whatever other site plans)? And for what? Nothing. Except the cost of maintenance. And upkeep. And insurance. The list can go on and on. Perhaps that is why the community did nothing to improve such an apparently important piece of property. Yet someone who has skin in the game (i.e. Baker) and has made honest attempts to appease the community and come into compliance with zoning has been fought tooth and nail at every turn. I realize that I will change no opinions with these posts, I just cannot stand the narrative of the "neighborhood under siege" when no one has advanced Aubrey Baker's -a friend and good man- cause. He has been through the wringer for this piece of property. Go talk to him. Talk to Kirk (as I'm sure lots of people have) then petition the BZA for the group who you feel has the better claim. But remember, property rights are the most important issue we in this country will face. If you don't own your land or body or believe you were endowed by the Creator with the right to, the concept from which all other freedoms arise, you have nothing, and are subject to mob rule. In this case a mob of well meaning (I hope) neighbors. I do not understand the impetus for Kirk to pursue this. I hope that the BZA will rule in Bakers favor, but I don't expect it to.
Traci Monroe August 16, 2012 at 07:56 pm
Dan, very informative post. How did you find out that the zoning was changed? I have searched online and haven't been able to find the right place to search.
Traci Monroe August 16, 2012 at 08:12 pm
In the end this is another situation that is "all for naught". With all that is going on at FRD, the destruction of buildings, does anyone really believe it is just because they were costing the company too much money to maintain. Ametek moving downtown and that property being vacated has anyone given thought to what the plans are for the industrial side of Lake St. I have an idea that there are plans in the works, that are not being made public, and it will probably be more devastating to the neighborhood than approving the change in zoning for Baker's.
Marilyn Carlson August 16, 2012 at 08:15 pm
@ Dan, you can go back to Mr. Baker's den and tell him that a Skunk is a skunk no mater where he lives and how many times he changes his address. I did not come up with this, a neighbor told me about the skunk when he was describing baker. That is how they feel about him. I know you love him.
Dan the Butcher August 16, 2012 at 08:41 pm
Bravo. Well reasoned and insightful. I realize, only now in the twilight of mine years that emotions; and I am talking really strong ones, untempered with reason, compassion, or understanding, and perspective, are the ONLY things which determine efficacy. Thank YOU madam. I can die unperturbed by the concept of justice. A better world awaits.
Dan the Butcher August 16, 2012 at 08:44 pm
I'll try to find the info again, but lets not forget that building could not have been built in the first place if the current zoning was the original zoning. -D
Tiffany Jones August 16, 2012 at 09:23 pm
Bravo!
Tiffany Jones August 16, 2012 at 09:44 pm
Google really does have all the answers and more! Had I just listened to everyone's advice and done my "homework" I would have found the answers I was looking for! I kept asking why everyone was so galvanized over something that realistically only effects a few, namely the author of this article. The powers of persuasion are a gift! The ability to organize and unite others! Now that my quest for answers is over I did want to share this little gem from the first website I pulled up. It speaks volumes.
From the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative's website: "Kirk began his organizing career in Chicago first working for a neighborhood-based community organization on the west side tackling issues such as abandoned buildings..." Funny that he was content living next to one for years and only when it became occupied did he start caring... and only then because it MIGHT effect him. Be careful who you choose to follow, not every path is clearly marked.
Molly August 16, 2012 at 10:15 pm
"a Skunk is a skunk no mater where he lives"
You might want to take a good hard look in the mirror. You said it yourself, you dislike Baker because of something someone happen to say about him? You are awful opinionated for someone who doesn't even know him.
Marilyn Carlson August 17, 2012 at 03:05 am
So Dan, now, you are a correct gentleman, reasonable and insightful? I see...
Teresa K. August 17, 2012 at 01:32 pm
@Marilyn: yes, I noted that too.
Molly August 18, 2012 at 10:01 am
It's funny how out of ALL the comments and facts posted THIS is the ONE thing you "noted".
Not everyone agrees with some people in the neighborhood and believe that zoning CAN, and SHOULD be changed (and it wouldn't be the first time) to accommodate a hard working, honest man trying to keep his business up and running. Don't let a few closed minded, selfish people get you down! You do have supporters out there~ Best of luck to Baker, his family, and employees on Monday!
DuckTapeMan August 18, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Has anyone thought what the side effects of losing Mr. Baker as a kent small business? Not only would it effect Mr. Baker, his family, his employees, and their families, it would effect the community. Mr. Baker buys auto parts from kent businesses, fuel for the trucks from kent gas stations and him and his employees eat at kent restruants. Then think about all ther customers Mr. Baker has, he's been in kent since 1990, so i bet some customers have been with him for over 20 years. So these other people wouldn't suffer if Mr. Baker is forced out of town? That also sounds like a big loss in tax dollars for the city of kent. Is the neighborhood behind Baker's going to take care of all these problems?
Teresa K. August 18, 2012 at 01:31 pm
@alyssa: as the fence has been there for over five years, I think, the previous owner should have been aware of the fence being on his/ her property. If anyone should be complaining about the fence, it should have been the previous owner, or Mr. Crock. If I were Mr. Noden and had his yard... two feet loss would mean nothing to me.
IF it is proven that the fence is on MR. CROCK'S property, I am sure it can be moved. Easy breezy. Mr. Baker has said nothing about the fence. You folks are. And you are doing a mighty fine job : )
Traci Monroe August 18, 2012 at 01:36 pm
First of all, Mr. Baker isn't being "forced out of town", secondly it's not as if he's employing hundreds. The residents of that neighborhood have the RIGHT to request that the zoning be upheld. It is all in the hands of the City now, If Mr. Baker and Mr. Crock were led to believe, by the realtor, that the zoning was other than what it is they should sue the realtor.
Teresa K. August 18, 2012 at 02:08 pm
@Duck: re: "Has anyone thought what the side effects of losing Mr. Baker as a kent small business?" yes, we have.
Duck, did Baker's think of possible side effects for us before he moved across the street and started this whole fiasco?
David Reith August 29, 2012 at 07:03 pm
What is Mr. Baker up to these days? What is Mr. Baker's attorney up to these days?
Teresa K. August 30, 2012 at 02:11 pm
@david: i dont have a clue...
but, with all the extra planning months (3 months) they've been afforded by the city, i think they should be ok and have a good business plan in the works.
Marilyn Carlson August 30, 2012 at 06:32 pm
You are probably wandering because the noise that he is making can be heard all the way down to Crain Ave. I guess he is done trying to pretend that he changed his way he operates and that he is a new, clean and careful business man. Back to business as usual. Oh! and I drove by and there has been a humongous truck in there that has been sitting there all morning. I guess he has a business plan Teresa, to find a way to stay!
David Reith September 17, 2012 at 06:29 pm
Thirty days hath September, April, June, and November - and, oh, Baker's Month - remember?
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Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something
Chris (Kit) Myers June 19, 2013 at 09:20 am
Yeah, it's tough having to cross railroad tracks on a bike trail provided by the taxpayers for youRead More to use free of charge. I feel your pain...
Matt Fredmonsky (Editor) June 19, 2013 at 01:25 pm
Thanks for the information Gary. Last I was told we can expect it to open this summer.
Mary June 19, 2013 at 05:42 pm
It's looking good. I can't wait!
Linda Davis, founder of Loved Ones of Prisoners, a support group for families.
Sa;;y June 16, 2013 at 05:05 pm
Linda, Kudos! Tough subject to not only approach but create a whole support group. I'm going toRead More pass judgement and say I think you are great!
Sa;;y June 16, 2013 at 04:59 pm
Paula, While I believe there are truly good people out there who have nothing but the bestRead More intentions for others, this story does not shock nor surprise me. I attended meetings with a friend who was court ordered. They couldn't drive and I figured I would sit with them instead of driving back and forth. AA claims not to be a religious sect but all the meetings and steps center around God. Not that I have a problem with God, but some people don't believe. Our courts (Judges) sentence people to attend meetings for DUI. I find this sad and irresponsible. One, it's religion. Two, you are sending alcoholics in to a group of other alcoholics who are not trained to help people with addiction. AA teaches people they are "helpless and powerless". Really? An individual has to find strength from within to fight the addiction. Telling people they are helpless isn't going to help. Alcoholism is usually tied to mental issues or illness. Going into a room and listening to other people's depressing rock bottom stories made me want to leave and go drink. Paradise Club....... hmmmmmmm...... I am not surprised. The only reason these court ordered sessions continue is that it doesn't cost the court any money. DUI's are a money maker for the courts, police and all the attorney's out there. Ah, but that's another story. I hope there is a happy ending for all of those above and others like them who have suffered under the guise of AA.
Amber Rodriguez June 13, 2013 at 12:30 am
I just want to let people know that Dandelion has been found, thank all of you who expressed concernRead More and kept your eyes out for him.
Michelle Fredmonsky-Harvey June 19, 2013 at 10:30 am
SO HAPPY to hear that !!!! :)
Matt Fredmonsky (Editor) June 5, 2013 at 03:25 pm
Does this not qualify? We're also the only news agency to report if he actually had an explosiveRead More device on him or not. Stories similar to what you've asked for almost all appeared last week. http://kent.patch.com/groups/editors-picks/p/man-arrested-after-threatening-to-set-off-bomb-at-kent-state_593fe0c4
Dave June 5, 2013 at 03:35 pm
Maybe it is just the start to a slow summer or a sign that there is nothing interesting going on inRead More Kent. The story you mentioned turned out to be pretty uneventful and more about a guy making false, not real, threats. The two stories that have seen the most face-time have been KRHS's valedictorian and the med helicopter. Maybe highlight achievements and products of local businesses we don't hear about. Run an interesting historical piece. Not trying to be argumentative but rather making a comment that the information provided as of late has been less than interesting.
amelfo June 7, 2013 at 05:39 pm
Matt -- no need to defend yourself. Considerate of you to respond, though.
Matt Fredmonsky (Editor) June 3, 2013 at 05:12 pm
It seems hardly anyone ever waits until the end of the procession to congratulate all the graduatesRead More at once.
lost cat is on the left in the photo
Patricia June 4, 2013 at 12:52 pm
I posted it to FB too, I live on Wolcott and I saw the flyer yesterday on a pole.
janetstavole June 4, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Thanks to everyone who is helping and has helped. Emmie is still missing but it helps to know soRead More many are looking out for her and us. Thanks again! Janet Stavole
janetstavole June 5, 2013 at 08:14 pm
Happy to report my cat was found....in a friends garage across 43 and about one quarter of a mileRead More away. Thanks to all of you who reposted our information on Facebook. Janet Stavole
Sue May 8, 2013 at 01:47 am
The school levy has passed. This is great news for the children of Kent. Thanks to everyone whoRead More voted for the levy.
Jim Williams May 8, 2013 at 02:05 am
Glad to see that 17% of Kent citizens were able to muster the energy to bother voting, and that theRead More majority of those few supported this very important issue. Congrats to the District for making the convincing argument. It's pretty clear that the chorus of "NO" that exists here on Patch is not representative of the majority.
Concerned Citizen May 8, 2013 at 02:58 am
Good voting LD
Teresa K. April 25, 2013 at 11:18 pm
I'm glad the League did their research. Have they ever researched and said: "no, we dont feelRead More the levy is needed?" For most of us, our research need only go as far as our wallets and income. If the schools with their million dollar budgets are feeling the crunch, imagine how average or lower average income homes are struggling. I am very suspect of the excellent w/ distincton rating and the asking of this levy at this time. How were we able to get that kind of incredible rating with NO ADDED FUNDS? Did the teachers wake up last year? Did the kids wake up? How did the school get such superior ratings THAT year and none in previous ones? why such a huge gap in time and ratings? The days of passing every school levy "just because", "we've never said no", "for the kids" or to keep our "property values" are over. The economy took care of that. No matter how you feel about the levy: PLEASE VOTE.
Sa;;y April 25, 2013 at 11:24 pm
I urge my fellow residents to send a message to the school board: The Board needs to face the factRead More of the current economic conditions involving the residents in the Kent city school district and come back with a request for a more reasonable millage. Otherwise, I think the levy will fail. Our city leaders encouraged businesses to come into the new development by granting concessions on taxes. Well, there goes the additional money!
Sue May 7, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Vote YES today for Kent children. Yes on the school levy.