Standing Rock Starts Petition to Save Green Space
Arts group continues fight to keep Wells-Sherman House from being relocated to lot by gallery
The artists and supporters of Standing Rock Cultural Arts are not giving up their fight against plans to relocate the historic Kent Wells-Sherman House to green space next to the group's gallery.
The supporters have established an online petition that urges members of Kent City Council to help save the green space targeted for the relocation of the house. Supporters also have set up a Facebook page for the effort called "Save the Standing Rock Garden."
As of Thursday, 29 out of a goal of 300 digital signatures had been collected.
These latest two efforts come about one week after council voted to give a 10-year, $15,000 loan to the non-profit group TransPortage to aid in moving the house to the lot, which is located between the Standing Rock gallery and the Scribbles Coffee building on North Water Street.
There are a few things that must happen before the move can take place.
TransPortage still has to buy the land — a purchase agreement is in place — and get a line of credit to cover the other expenses associated with moving, renovating and bringing the house up to code.
And the Kent Planning Commission and Kent Board of Zoning Appeals have yet to vote on the site plan for the house as it would sit on the lot. They are expected to review the site plans in July, but the planning commission did hear a cursory presentation last month.
Ian Jones
9:26 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Who owns the land?
Lisa Regula Meyer
9:45 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Currently, Jim Arthur. He's let the gallery use the land for ~20 years in exchange for SRCA taking care of the lot. Also, it will no longer be TransPortage to negotiate this deal, but instead Rick Hawksley and the Friends of the Wells-Sherman House, as destroying green space isn't in line with TransPortage's mission statement, and the members heavily disapproved of the project.
T
2:04 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
The ownership actually transferred from Jim Arthur to Bill Arthur.
Paxton Crenshaw
9:56 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
"Rick Hawksley and the Friends of the Wells-Sherman House" - sounds more to me as though he's starting a band.
Matt Fredmonsky
11:38 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Comments were removed for violating Patch's terms of use. http://kent.patch.com/terms Please stick to the issue.
T
12:20 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
I kind of wish you had left the comments since it really reflected on whomever the individual under the pseudonym may be who left them.
T
12:44 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
I would like to clarify some things about this article and issue as a representative of Standing Rock Cultural Arts.
First, I would like to note that we oppose "fighting." We support restoration of the Kent Wells Sherman house but also support alternatives to destruction of green space. SRCA has always supported sustainability and this part of our by-laws. Therefore, we have always supported the preservation of green space. The Who's Your Mama? week of environmental events that is produced by SRCA is not merely lip service. We truly support sustainability and environmental efforts and greatly value green space. We incorporate sustainability principles in everything that we do. We would be in support of thriving, well-used green space next to the gallery or in any corner of our community. Again this issue of the green space is not just about past use of the space by SRCA but also about protecting green space, a sustainable example, and allowing for enrichment in natural spaces.
Secondly, not everyone in support of the green space (while appreciated) is a board member or staff of Standing Rock Cultural Arts. Our board members can easily be located quite visibly on our website and have been noted on the website with appropriate updates since 2010. Our Executive Director is well-established. Only four representatives of Standing Rock Cultural Arts have spoken out on the Patch or to any media to my knowledge. We cannot account for other comments.
T
12:48 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Thirdly, SRCA did not author this petition. Petition originators are clearly listed on the petition site. Members have supported and shared the petition. However, it is composed as being by friends of SRCA, members of other groups, and community individuals and is not written as "We, Standing Rock Cultural Arts." It was neither a dreamchild nor suggestion of SRCA and should not be assumed as coming from SRCA or only SRCA individuals despite support. Thank you.
T
12:51 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
But seriously, let’s get back once again to the important (still unanswered) questions and reasons to question this move, folks:
Why was a nonprofit group’s name attached to something their own members-and even some of the directors-opposed?
In fact, why weren’t the membership and all of the directors informed (let alone in approval) prior to press on the coverage?
Why did it take public outcry to even have intended plans re-reviewed to give any consideration to its current uses? Is it because of the media game (the ‘Why is SRCA being outrageous’ stance)?
Why was the purchasing agreement for a space that’s been in use by a nonprofit organization for 20 years quickly and quietly drawn up before the organization that has been using it was even given a courtesy notice by those encroaching on its current permitted uses?
Why was no transparency about any of the plans even given until after council initially approved a loan at which point in time, it first appeared publicly in the Kent Patch following public and media outcry for more transparency?
What funding is secured to insure that this project will be a success at the expense/destruction of these environmental gardens that have been tended organically for as long as 20 years (depending on the plot)?
...to be continued...
T
12:54 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
How is moving a few lawyers from downtown and putting in a nonprofit office going to revitalize North Water Street or any neighborhood or bring in money when it’s introducing no new business to the area?
Is the amount of money to be borrowed and invested (almost $200,000) worth what appears to be for a few individuals’ stake and pride?
How will the renovated house taking sustainable green space and decimating thriving organic gardens be heated (fossil fuels, solar panels, etc)?
What will be the rental fees and spaces?
Why haven’t those speaking in support of the project indicated that this will be fee-based to its neighbors as well (which doesn’t matter except for transparency and non-misleading purposes since even if it were free, SRCA would not support the destruction of greenspace)?
How much money will be needed to bring this house to code? Where is that funding guaranteed?
Will the renovations ever truly allow the home to be registered as a historical home in the state of Ohio following the modern updates that have gone into it while it was a boarding house?
How will maintenance, upkeep, and long term restoration be assuredly financed?
...to be continued...
T
12:54 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
If the leader of an organization couldn’t get its own members to agree on a move or project like this and various sectors, groups, and individuals in the community are speaking out against it for a variety of reasons (interest in children’s enrichment that takes place there, environmental/sustainable, financial, ethical, community interest, beautification/neighborhood interest, etc.), shouldn’t the plan and individual interest versus community interest be rethought?
Was a nonprofit’s name that had not agreed to the plan attached merely to obtain the funding support behind the project for a few members’ interests?
Is the majority (or even half) of the money that is realistically needed secured in the bank and ready to support this project?
Why have some sizeable figures been missing from the budget or listed as “not known” when published in the media?
...to be continued...
T
12:55 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Why are the only responses to legitimate intelligent probing questions to deflect to items that are not important (insulting photos, abusive comments, changing the subject, or attempting to denigrate a community-based, community-supportive nonprofit by attacking its owner’s--not SRCA for those who haven’t caught on to that from various posts--building, to attack the nature of a nonprofit to fund its money back into programming rather than vanity of a building that isn’t even in its ownership, to indicate that those with an opposing opinion should remain silent and not dialogue nor debate about what they feel is right, and to even go so far as to begin suggesting places for SRCA to move its location of 20 years in order to meet the needs or desires of an encroaching project or a few individuals (which could suggest they’d like to take over the gallery space and record store as well)?
In fact, why all the defensiveness, negative energy, and lack of answers?
::Crickets continue, days later, to chirp::
Elaine Hullihen
5:48 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Tina, I agree. Your questions should be clearly answered.
Like councilman John Kuhar said at the city meeting the other week: Where are the utilities that will actually get this house functioning? It seems you aren't the only one who sees the plan for moving this house as underdeveloped.
I am in no way a city planner, know next to nothing about buildings and understand there are bumps in any roapmap, but if respect is present in a relationship change is made through dialogue. As President of SRCA, Tina, are the Friends unwilling to answer your questions, unwilling to be transparent or are they still searching for their own answers?
Chris (Kit) Myers
9:43 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
If the purchase of the land is not a done deal, make an offer to the owner, with whom you seem to have a working relationship, to purchase it. Is the contract to purchase the land between TransPortage and the owner? If it is true that TransPortage is out of the picture, is there, in fact, a valid purchase contract on the property? If not, get in touch with the owner fast... like tomorrow! Or tonight!!! If the people who take care of the property and the people who use the property really care what happens, collect a lot of cash from them, and buy the place... real quick. If the people who use it won't give you money, they don't care enough. Get movin'; times a'wastin'.
Otherwise, since it is the owner's property, he can do with it what he wishes.
T
11:17 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Kit, the agreement has a time limit that will need to expire before another offer can be accepted. The purchasing agreement was drawn up before SRCA was aware that a purchase would be needed to protect the green space that has been for the past two decades. We would have expressed interest sooner had we known.
T
11:19 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Donors have stepped forward in interest of maintaining green space.
Chris (Kit) Myers
11:24 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
If the agreement is from TransPortage, since they are no longer in the picture, it is not valid. Get in there with an offer today. Get in there with an offer today anyway. Do it! Do it!
T
11:43 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
We've asked since knowing to be second in line for consideration if anything happens to the first purchasing agreement but the owner is still in the first agreement until expiration. He is aware of our interest if things are unable to move forward with the first agreement.
T
11:59 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Elaine, these were community questions (many of which I also thought) that were never answered. I culled them together in one list but they've been posted for weeks by numerous members of the community so I can't take full credit for asking and I should say this is not just my questions or SRCA's questions but the community's questions. You may notice that I have tried to answer legitimate questions or clarify info about SRCA. Transparency is a plus I believe.
Chris (Kit) Myers
12:28 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
He who hesitates is lost. Write him an offer and hand him some earnest money. You have nothing to lose by so doing and perhaps everything to gain.
From whom is the offer under consideration? TransPortage? I ask again, is it valid? Do you have an attorney or realtor in your group? If so, talk to them, but get your offer in NOW! N-O-W!
I will say no more.
T
12:35 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Kit, no one has been transparent about exactly who the agreement involves and we believe in behaving ethically despite the fact that after use of the land for 20 years, no one approached us prior to a purchase agreement going into place, which feels unethical to me personally since there was awareness of the uses. We have an attorney in our group and have followed his valued advice.
Chris (Kit) Myers
2:52 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
I know that you are indeed fine ethical people. I really hope you can somehow retain use of the property.
T
7:33 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Thank you, Kit. :)
Jennifer Cline
8:20 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
I would just like to note the question that Elaine earlier posted in response to the list of questions that Tina has compiled: "...are the Friends [of the Wells Sherman House] unwilling to answer your questions, unwilling to be transparent or are they still searching for their own answers?"
It is my hope that someone from the above mentioned group may feel prompted to reply. And if you have missed it, please read the list of questions (posted by Tina) that have been expressed by various community members, so that the dialogue might start to take look a bit more balanced, direct or...practical.
Mars
9:03 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Sadly, this has been going on for quite some time. Tina's questions remain unanswered and have for weeks. The most vocal of crusaders was Sally Burnel who seems to have taken a sizeable hiatus from the Patch world. I've personally met more people interested in preserving the priceless "greenspace" than those interested in preserving the house. Some think the house has history and would like to see it saved and restored, but aren't willing to sacrifice the serene setting the "greenspace" has to offer.
The fact that it is even referred to as "greenspace" actually boggles my mind. We've tortured the Earth so much that it's not nature even anymore, it's "greenspace" competing for existence with the ultimate invasive species... Humans.
Matt Fredmonsky
11:06 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
A comment was removed for violating Patch's terms of use. http://kent.patch.com/terms
Tom Tucker
6:47 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Care to tell me exactly what specifically what I said was a violation of TOS, and point to specific examples in your TOS where those specific words are against TOS?
Good grief. No wonder some of you work for Patch. Oh oh. Is THAT a violation of TOS, too?
Roger Thurman
7:59 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
Sally Burnell's research has proved the provenance of this house and its very important relation to the history of Kent. It is an architectural gem which will enhance and improve the neighborhood of North Water. A setback of 15 feet has been recommened by the review commission which will provide SRCA some space for their activities. The backyard will also still be available for their usage and maintenance. Furthermore the interior space on the main floor can be used for public purposes such as a reception or gallery show for SRCA. A kitchenette and restrooms will also support these public usages. I communicated these accommodations directly and personally to Jeff Ingram. It is my view that the new house next door will not detract or deter SRCA's many worthwhile activities which are held throughout the community. The placement of the renewed historic structure will attract positive attention to that section of North Water and will benefit all its neighbors, including SRCA.
Lisa Regula Meyer
8:01 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Why not put the house where it would be welcomed, like 236 Lake Street, instead of dividing the community with the plan to put it on North Water Street? Why not put energy into working with the university and changing those criteria? There are already plenty of office spaces for rent downtown, and community rooms that are free for use by community organizations as well, while this space will be rental based instead, and fairly limited (it's only 800 square feet, and on a very small lot, so not much space inside or outside with this house there). And with the expense of this house being estimated at around 200 thousand dollars just to situate it, the rent is not going to be cheap, especially after the additional 100 thousand dollar "Phase Two" of the project. What happens if that 300 thousand dollar venture fails after destroying the green space? What then will have been gained, but another blighted building in Kent? And my understanding is that it will likely not qualify for "historic site" designation after it's been used as a boarding house for 30 years and moved from its original site, so there will be only limited funds that it qualifies for as a historic home.
Roger Thurman
8:06 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
My awareness of SRCA was confirmed in 2005 when I participated in their production of "Dawn Falls," an outdoor drama which was presented in the park down by the river behind the dam. It was a wonderful experience made possible by lots of people cooperating to convey a theatrical sense of Kent's fascinating history. SRCA initiated it and carried it through to success. At that time I had occasion to use their main facility on North Water as weil as the lot next door. We rehearsed the play twice on that lot. My impression was that it was too narrow and sloped to be of any value as a rehearsal space and there were distractions from people driving by honking and yelling at us. In my memory the trerrain surface was rough, unkempt and not a safe or useful surface space for the outdoor drama rehearsals. The main facility and gallery were also cause for concern at that time. The floors seemed very uneven, as though the boards were warped from years of moisture. The changing/restroom facilities can best be described as barely adequate. Indeed, in my meeting last week with Jeff Ingram he noted that the building's condition is mentioned as an issue at every SRCA board meeting. When I spoke with Jeff last week it appeared to me that that place was even worse than seven years prior.
Roger Thurman
8:24 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
Why then all this angst over a facility which is not up to the noble goals of the organization? Indeed, SRCA tried to move many years ago to the former Dome nite club which the county owned but would not provide a long term lease.
The Friends of the Wells Sherman House have a solid puchase agreement with a transfer clause. It is a private deal with a private owner. We never set out to cause damage to anyone but simply desired to save an important structure which has a timetable created by the KSU Esplanade in August. It seems that SRCA complaints about this move are ultimately motivated by the idea that they intend to occupy the corner of Portage and North Water in perpetuity -- that there is no intention of ever moving from an admittedly substandard facility that is rented from month to month. If they somehow prevented the Sherman-Weils House move and then later decided to move what would have been accopmplished? Nothing less than the destruction of an important vestige of Kent's past.
This is why some of us do not understand their position vis a vis the house move. They have only themselves to hold responsible for the condition of their tenancy and the attendant concerns for the building itself. The Friends of the Wells-Sherman House did not put SCRA in this position but we may have unwittingly exposed it for what it really is.
T
12:54 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Please reference the questions above and respond instead of deflecting to unrelated items repeatedly. These are COMMUNITY questions, not SRCA questions although we share them. This has nothing to do with where our building is nor where the green space is nor just of its past and current uses. This is about protection of green space and sustainability, which SRCA happens to value and uphold anywhere in the community when in good use as this is. I will not entertain nonsense deflections with the dignity of responses that have already been made previously, but I do think motives are making themselves well-known at this point. I hope the record store is paying as much attention as we are.
Standing Rock Cultural Arts
2:08 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Greetings Roger,
How are you? I regret that we are at odds over the issue of moving the
Wells Sherman House onto 247 N. Water St.
I have no reason to doubt the sincere offers you have made to SRCA
regarding use of the space once the house is on the lot. Thank you for
the offers.
1. This does not respond to the rest of the community who have been
involved in the discussion of the relocation. What about urban gardens,
greenspace to relax and enjoy Edwin's Mural, Open Poetry and Pot Lucks.
2. This is not a vacant lot. It's vibrant with children, native plants,
and organic garden, and solar panels.
3. There are better, truly vacant spaces in this city, close to
Downtown, like 236 Lake St., that should be pursued. Residents in this
Lake Street neighborhood say they would welcome this house!
4. I do not want to see this historic building torn down. There are too
few green areas in downtown. We need to preserve the green for future
generations.
Standing Rock Cultural Arts
2:11 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
5. Here are some thoughts by Dr. Maj Ragain, 71 year old SRCA Board Member.
A Letter to the Kent City Council
I am writing in support of maintaining the green space adjacent to the
North Water Street Gallery and against moving the Sherman House onto it.
It is the only remaining green space on North Water Street, an oasis in
a sea of asphalt and concrete, a remnant of green, a natural and
nurturing place, a preserve which, once relinquished, will never be
recovered. Nestled between the North Water Street Gallery and Scribbles
coffee shop, it is a playground and rehearsal space for Standing Rock
Cultural Arts’ Children’s Theater, directed by Jeff Ingram for many
years. It is gathering ground for the Jawbone Open Poetry Festival, a
Kent tradition for twenty five years.
Standing Rock Cultural Arts
2:15 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
A place to relax, to refresh
the spirit. That green must be close to where we live and work. We
shouldn’t have to drive to find it. Once we pave it or set a house on
it, it is gone, like the hundred year old Sycamores cut down, on North
Water Street, during the bridge construction. Gone.
Certainly, the heritage of the Sherman House should be honored. But,
move it to an alternative location. One should never underestimate the
importance of the natural in our lives. Henry David Thoreau called
wildness, the natural world, a ‘tonic.’ Go down to the green space next
to the gallery. Walk the grassy yard. Go up the hill to the swing which
invites the children to play (as well as adults). Sit a while in the
grass. Now, walk an asphalt parking lot. Or stroll the ‘grey fields’ of
the nearly abandoned plaza on South Water Street, where the Tops grocery
store opened briefly and left. Feel the difference.
What have you learned?
Standing Rock Cultural Arts
2:16 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
In a time of unprecedented change in downtown Kent, let us pause and
consider what will be lost. The Algonquin Nation was guided by the seven
generation rule: how will the present action affect the community seven
generations hence. May we be so guided. Leave this patch of green as it
is, an open area, open to play, to picnic, to contemplate, this humble
people’s park, a reminder of what once was and, in a small but crucial
way, still is.
Dr. Maj Ragain
Board Member, Standing Rock Cultural Arts
Kent Resident
Lisa Regula Meyer
6:51 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Roger, a quick check, and it looks like the FWSH is neither an official non-profit, nor incorporated, so how is it that they are making a purchase agreement? Yes, it is a private land deal, but FWSH is not an official entity so far as I can tell, so who holds the purchase agreement? TransPortage has decided not to be involved, and the person in TransPortage who is advocating putting this house essentially in his back yard is Rick Hawksley. So it appears that it would be a private land deal between Mr. Hawksley and Mr. Arthur, with no non-profit involvement. Why then, is a private land deal supposed to benefiting from public dollars? Putting this house on this site is *not* going to be a public good, at least not in the way it's being sold to the city. If the FSWH want to do this, they can do it without tax dollars and city help. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Standing Rock Cultural Arts
2:14 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
It is a restorative, natural space
where walkers might linger and appreciate Edwin George’s giant Cherokee
folk mural painting on the side of the Scribbles building. This space is
currently being used, for community and artistic purposes. It is not a
vacant lot.
Nor is it an empty space.
Why not move activities elsewhere such as Fred Fuller Park? Because it
is important that green space be integrated into the downtown planning
scheme, into the daily life of the Kent community. Green speaks for
itself. It also speaks to us and for us
Chris (Kit) Myers
8:34 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Well, I went there yesterday and must say that any comparison to an urban garden is romantic fantasy at its finest, and I am surprised that the owner of the property has not been cited for allowing our-of-control grass, weeds, and the other sorts of scrub vegetation that sprout alongside buildings. Were I pre-Columbian Algonquin or a Cherokee or Henry David Thoreau, I think I would have to smoke a lot of funny cigarettes before I would be able to agree that it is what mother nature had in mind for a place of solace and introspection. Its apparance is indeed that of an urban vacant lot gone to seed. What is missing is an abandoned car.
But, that is not to say that I feel that the arts community should not have a space in the downtown for its present uses, but to me, a person with a lifelong appreciation of literature, the fine arts, and music, it just looks, well, rather ratty. But, who am I? After all, in the right frame of mind, "Stone walls do not a prison make,..."
I am all for it being kept for its present use but at present it is certainly not "A thing of beauty or a joy forever."
Mars
10:09 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Mother nature is the best artist of all, filling in each and every hole we humans leave her (which are fewer and farther between) by filling it with her life giving bounty. Bust out a wild edibles book and enjoy nibbling your way though the lot. You don't have to smoke "funny cigarettes" to enjoy nature. Thanks for proving the way you feel about everyone who does enjoy the wee bit of wild left on N. Water St.
Hang out with a young child and find your youth again in the joy, beauty and wonder in their faces as they explore the lot. A plot of land like that in the city is a gold mine for the pure, inquisitive mind of a child. And for plenty of adults, too. Humans are hard wired to react to nature. Step back and let her in.
Mother nature is solace and intropsection, and anywhere she plants her seeds, she nourishes the world. Mind, body and soul.
Casey Myers
11:10 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Whether or not people like the way the garden looks is a matter of personal preference. I personally value native plants over mulch and marigolds, but that's just my opinion. I value the community that this space supports, much of which is associated with SRCA, but some of which isn't. I am a person who has enjoyed this space for years, but I have no formal affiliation with SRCA.
What should be a point of contention for every taxpayer in this city (whether you enjoy the space as is or not) are the the very same questions that Tina Puckett and Lisa Regula have posed that have gone without answers. With TransPortage backing away from this project, it now is being spearheaded by Hawksley and FSWH, neither of which are sanctioned NPOs. Why is a private land deal being funded with public dollars? What plans are in place to repay the city, considering the other significant costs that will be incurred during the development of the site and restoration of the house? If the city is loaning money to this project, there must be transparency.
Chris (Kit) Myers
11:50 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
The land here was forest with, of course, lower growth plants native to the area. As a small child I spent hours in the woods which is now Silver Meadows. As teenager I spent hours in Davey Woods, and when I was old enough to drive I spent hours at Towner's Woods. I spend time to this day at Towner's Woods. I know what mother nature intended in northeastern Ohio. Why not get rid of the grass toward the front and plant native plants with a path leading to the rear open area.
I guess my question is, do you want what mother nature does to a lot that goes vacant or do you want what she did before it was built upon. If it is the latter, perhaps I can help, if, that is, you manage to retain control, which I hope you do.
Of course children like it as it is now. Children like any place where there is not a building.
Roger Thurman
3:32 pm on Monday, July 2, 2012
Our preferred site was on the Esplanade but did not fit with KSU's plan. Next were by the Kent Free Library (gorgeous site) and then Tannery Park. Subsequently eleven more locations were researched and all were not available or infeasible because of the expense of moving (utility and tree removal). Lake Street is way beyond possible because of the expense. Once again, I must question the motivation of SRCA in their strident protest against a building placement which can only enhance and upgrade their neighborhood location. By resisting over an empty lot you don't own, and with your primary site in poor condition (by your own admission) it sounds to me as though you are making a covenant with the people of Kent to never move from that location. All this at the risk of disrupting the salvation of an important historic structure, the provenance of which is beyond dispute. The month-to-month status of your tenancy and now the uproar over something you don't own or properly care for makes people wonder about the wisdom and competence of your leadership and board which has put you where you are. Why not direct the enmity at them, where it really belongs, and not at a group which bears no malice of any kind toward SRCA? Here's my opinion: I don't believe you will be at that location very much longer because any rational observer will conclude you need a more appropriate facility commensurate with the long-term goals of your worthy organization.
Mars
3:38 pm on Monday, July 2, 2012
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel *, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
Lisa Regula Meyer
3:39 pm on Monday, July 2, 2012
Roger, you might notice that it's not just SRCA that doesn't want the house there. The community in general doesn't want to see 300K spent on a house that will serve as office space and quite possibly fail as a venture because it doesn't have solid backing and a transparent organizational plan behind it. Now the original non-profit associated with the house doesn't even want to back the project. Really, what's more important- a building or a community? FWSH is destroying one to keep the other.
T
11:22 pm on Monday, July 2, 2012
::And crickets continue to chirp and chirp but the cash registers ding cha-ching cha-ching::
Fred Pierre
1:51 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Heads up critics! The SRCA gallery was repainted and restored about nine years ago, with dozens of volunteers pitching in. Those "weeds" are native Ohio cultivars, specifically chosen for their beneficial uses in healing. Stones were hand set to create the garden areas, and lilacs were planted to strengthen the hill against erosion. Of course there are some weeds. Get real! There are weeds in the Home Savings Plaza as well, but we don't have to bulldoze it. There is now a $10,500 matching grant available to save this green space.
Mars
6:47 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Bravo!
Roger Thurman
10:30 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
May I suggest that in view of the poor condition of your primary site and the lack of a lease you take that money and find a better location? You can buy one of the distressed properties in Kent (120 W. Elm) for $700 down and $300 per month. That's just one example.
Here's why it is important to place the Sherman-Wells house on N. Water: a). Context, it restores a Greek Revival to a lot which previously hosted a similar structure; b) Our Roots, a Kent family home is saved and placed on the same street as the original location; c) History, it will match other Civll War era houses in the neighborhood, d), Politics, located across from the John Brown Hotel (now JB's) it will remind us of how agrarian Kent appeared when people lived closer to the land and the town was a center of Abolitionist activity; e) Aesthetics and Revolution, the Greek Revival architecture itself was a effort by Americans to break from the Georgian styles which symbolized the era of British colonial rule.
Kent was full of such frame buildings before the advent of the larger masonry structures. Note how some masonry structures have crumbled while the timber framed Sherman-Wells house has remained strong with ten inch beams pegged and fitted together barn-style. It is a splendid example of this architecture and will grace the North Water neighborhood in a serene, classical style intertwined with the history of our country and your town.
Lisa Regula Meyer
10:37 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
And yet, it's a building. An old building, built by people who are long dead. The people who are alive and living in Kent now would rather see the estimated $300,000 dollars for the full project spent in better ways than creating offices. If it does end up as a public community center of some sort, there won't be the cash needed to support this extravagant a project. There are offices downtown, there are free community rooms downtown, there are historic structures downtown, and there are plenty of other ways to remember the founders of our town that don't involve taking away from the culture and character of the city.
Casey Myers
11:06 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Nothing like bulldozing an organic garden to remind us of our agrarian roots, huh?
T
1:19 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
May I suggest that in view of the poor condition of your primary site and the lack of a lease you take that money and find a better location? You can buy one of the distressed properties in Kent (120 W. Elm) for $700 down and $300 per month. That's just one example."
This is not SRCA funds being used for this. This is community and community organizations stepping forward with donations and grants to preserve the green space as the community has indicated they would like. Know the facts before you speak please but, better yet, offer some facts to the community's questions instead of deflecting, sir.
Roger Thurman
11:00 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
We want to renew the history of Kent and this building will add to and restore the culture of Kent. Your organization needs a much better structure which it owns and can develop. Your bulk of your programs can carry on from anywhere in Kent and will not be affected in any way by this building. You are saying you intend to occupy that poor facility forever and I don't believe that to be the actual case given the real conditions of your situation there. This is a double dose of change and reality and you have not prepared for either, which is a fundamental responsibility of those who run an organization. Victimhood as a way of life is not attractive or productive. Our cost estimates are worst case. We will bring it in for far less.
Lisa Regula Meyer
11:07 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
It's not my organization, Roger, and SRCA isn't the only group that uses that space, the people in the community do. This is not an issue of "victimhood", this is a case of believing that might makes right, and taking advantage of privilege. Cost estimates may be worst case, but with an old structure, there's always the chance of worst case being even worse than you expected, so I wouldn't count on that argument, if I were you.
Casey Myers
11:19 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Restoring the culture of Kent? To what past state? There's a wonderful community of people who are connected through the garden right now. And besides, this isn't just a Standing Rock issue. You are addressing everyone as if they are arguing from the perspective that the only reason to oppose the house is because of SRCA programming. For a lot of people, this has nothing to do with SRCA and everything to do with money, transparency, community and the environment. Since when did dissent become victimhood as a way of life?
T
1:22 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
The only thing I will dignify in a response here to someone who consistently deflects in order to avoid answering questions is that not one representative from SRCA ever indicated that we will inhabit our current location forever as is. We continue to support the green space and believe us when we say that our cultural arts activities will happen if we have no office at all - even if we had to do it out of a green space. The events happen not because of a building but because of a passion for the arts and community and a commitment to community through the arts, even if it's fee-free and open to the entire community, bucks or no bucks, income or humanity.
T
1:23 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Feel free to reference previous comments of mine to confirm that and the questions that the community have asked that still go unanswered can be reviewed there as well.
Roger Thurman
1:20 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
On the plus side we're getting some rain finally!
Roger Thurman
1:38 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
We are in the process of setting up a meeting with the SRCA board through one of the intermediaries. I have met personally with Jeff last week. Other FSWH members have sent emails requesting a meeting but there has been no response. I bumped into somebody yesterday and McDonald's and he got back to me with the word that it would take a couple of days to set up a meeting. You can ask all your questions and we'll answer as best we can. I have tried to be factual and explain why we want to move this house.
T
10:49 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
SRCA will be happy to meet and a response to the emails sent yesterday and today (3 total from the same person I believe) is in process. It might be helpful and taken more seriously as an overture for negotiation if the emails from other FWSH members didn't have a flurry of suggestions for where SRCA should move to in order to vacate and get out of the way of the Wells Sherman project however. Our building is not currently for sale nor closed and we have not advertised that we are seeking a space as of late. If FWSH wants to be good neighbors or considered to be wanting to be good neighbors, it's helpful to not be asking the long-time residents to vacate... Just a friendly little tip.
T
10:51 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
In fact, it's interesting that so much time is being spent invested in finding new locations for SRCA to vacate to than finding a better location where FWSH might not meet community clamor. Perhaps, energy should be reinvested in FWSH, not SRCA.
William B Budner ESQ.
2:27 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
i'm sure you have been factual about why you want to move the house. i also think other people affiliated with SRCA and not affiliated with them have been factual about not wanting to move it and or the costs associated with moving this "piece of history". so now what? both sides are being "factual", who wins?
Casey Myers
12:11 am on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
You're right, but some facts are missing. Again:
Since Transportage has backed out, to whom is the city lending $15,000? FWSH is not incorporated as an NPO (according to the state and the IRS), so are we to assume that public funds are helping to finance Mr. Hawksley's private land deal?
If so, I think it is also safe to assume that the side that "wins" will be the one with the most money and the most connections to City Hall.