South Water Property Owner Charged for Unpaid Fines
City will pass on fees to county to be added to property tax bill
The house at 936 S. Water St. is one of eight properties with delinquent fines owed the city that will be passed on to the county to be added to the property tax bill.
The city fined owner Brian Bottger $300 for violating the city's general offense code. The fees were delinquent as of August 2011.
Bridget Susel, acting head of Kent's Community Development Department, said the homeowner was cited for a nuisance complaint regarding a couch located on the front porch.
The 936 S. Water St. house is located next door to another one of the eight properties with deliquent fines that appeared Wednesday on Kent Patch.
Chris (Kit) Myers
7:43 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Wow! 300 bucks! And maybe, if the house is a rental, Mr. Bottger was never told it was there before he got slapped with the fine. Was he told?
If you own the house in which you live are you allowed to have a couch on your porch?
demo rat
8:06 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Why can't you have a couch on your front porch? Maybe the Patch should publish the list of rules before Sue Nelson Designs hands out any more citations.
Chris (Kit) Myers
8:28 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Gee, pac, I have known Sue Nelson for a long time and an unaware that she holds any position with the City and has any authority to hand out citations of any sort. What City position does she hold? What citations has she handed out?
Why are you making anonymous comments and slamming Sue Nelson, a person who owns and operates a fine place of business in downtown Kent? Why are you afraid to use your name? Do you think she is going to come and beat you up? This is very sad... very sad indeed. Who are you?
Laurel Myers Hurst
8:14 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
I think we need a clear link to the nuisance regulations on the city's website. I just read "PART 14 - PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, HOUSING AND ENFORCEMENT," and it doesn't say you can't have a couch on your porch. I have two rocking chairs on my porch. Am I in violation?
Laurel Myers Hurst
8:17 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
...but according to 1410.04(e) EXTERIOR PROPERTY AREAS, Sue Nelson DEFINITELY has cause to complain...e) Exhaust Vents. Pipes, ducts, conductors, fans or blowers shall not discharge gases, steam, vapor, hot air, grease, smoke, odors or other gaseous or particulate wastes directly upon abutting or adjacent public or private property or that of another tenant.
Sue Nelson
8:34 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Re Pac.
Anybody remember there first beer. Where the hell did this come from?
For the record no complaints have ever been issued concerning these properties from Sue Nelson Designs.Pac you really don't know what your writing about.Go back to your hole.
demo rat
9:00 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
My comment was to point out that the city was seemingly handing out citations based on bad taste in decorating by referencing the only interior design business in Kent. It should be obvious to all that Sue Nelson Designs is not out there handing out citations for bad interior/exterior design for the city of Kent. Furthermore... Pac is my name. And I am not afraid Sue Nelson will beat me up.
Laurel Myers Hurst
9:10 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Bwhahaha...sorry Pac...we missed the funny, and it was funny!
Laurel Myers Hurst
9:13 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Still, reading the nuisance ordinances reminded me that the request of several downtown businesses for smoke/grease from the meat smoker to be ameliorated in some way was well within their right. The smoker is a difficult case since it is both an asset and a nuisance in the cityscape. I'm sure these residents feel the same way about their porch couch. :P
Sue Nelson
9:15 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Just to be perfectly clear , Sue Nelson is not in the business to cause bobily harm to anyone. In fact, we have helped many people by donations and fund raisers for the purpose of helping those who don't have the means to do the paint projects. Perhaps we can help again. It sounded as if maybe we should pool our energies in a more positive direction.
MM
9:27 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
LOL ... here we go with the strong arm of the Government. In case you haven't noticed, out Government from Federal, State to Local is getting more and more intrusive, dictorial.
Better be careful ... I know ... "not in America" ... LOL
barack
11:14 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Upholstered furniture designed for interior use is not allowed to be left outside for many reasons, including rodent harborage, animals using it as a litterbox, etc. This has been an ordinance for over 30 years. As a landlord, Mr. Myers is aware (or should be aware) of this ordinance, regardless whether or not the property is owner occupied.
Chris (Kit) Myers
11:31 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
I am quite aware of the ordinance re upholsrered furniture on porches and I do not question that. My question is whether or not the owner of the house under discussion was notified that it was there so he could take removal action or was he just cited and fined. Perhaps Susan or her boss would be willing to provide detailed comments regarding how these situations are handled. What steps are taken prior to the decision to fine.
My apologies to pac for not realizing that it was, in fact, his name.
barack
11:37 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Quoting the last sentence of your post at 7:43 am today, you stated, "If you own the house in which you live are you allowed to have a couch on your porch?", it didn't appear that you knew about the ordinance. If you would also read the article more carefully, it also says the property owner was cited (notice of violation) nad the owner did not pay the fine.
demo rat
11:57 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012
@CHRIS - Sue Nelson has nothing to do with these citations. Please read the above thread.
Hanna
2:22 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012
hahaha I was reading this article and got all mad then I read the comments and saw pac and all I could think was Pac-man!!! and then i read his coment and started laughing again at his failed atempt at comedy! Go back to your game Pac!
Chris (Kit) Myers
3:45 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012
barack, I don't have to read the article again. I am fully aware that the owner was cited. It does not say whether Mr. Bottger lives there or whether he owns the home and rents it out. Furthermore, having owned rental property since 1975, I am aware of the rodent harborage in porch furniture issue. I was a member of city council from 1979 through 1982 when the Environmental Health and Housing Maintenance Code was revised. I have a copy in my file cabinet. It is applicable to multi-use structures only. It is NOT applicable to single family dwellings. The City has probably since revised it and perhaps included single family dwellings, or passed something regarding only single family dwellings that got past me. Let me put it this way. If I see a porch couch or paint peeling on a councilperson's private single family dwelling, and I report it, will that person be cited?
barack
4:23 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Does it matter if the owner lives at the property? No. Maybe you should review the ordinances prior to posting comments.
Chris (Kit) Myers
5:50 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012
You needn't get snide. I am allowed to post comments and ask questions. That's what interactive journalism is all about. Perhaps, barack, you should either understand that or seek out the rolling donut.
barack
7:59 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012
Well, I would think you'd want to make an intelligent comment, rather than posting something that is erroneous.
"Interactive journalism" is better served by being intelligently prepared to defend their position, rather than asking questions that are ridiculous and/or making comments that are not based on facts.
Just sayin'...
Laurel Myers Hurst
7:11 am on Friday, January 13, 2012
This could be settled by cutting and pasting from the ordinance...it's not under nuisances.
Wade
7:17 am on Friday, January 13, 2012
Chris kit Myers, please explain "seek out the rolling doughnut."
Chris (Kit) Myers
9:46 am on Friday, January 13, 2012
Well, Wade, I feel that rather than playing games, for my edification, barack could just say from whence his information comes and what that information states. My donut reference is to the saying "Take a flying leap at a rolling donut," meaning "get lost."
barack
8:48 am on Friday, January 13, 2012
Check section 521.13 of the City ordinances.
Chris (Kit) Myers
9:52 am on Friday, January 13, 2012
Thanks, barack. Will do that.
barack
9:50 am on Friday, January 13, 2012
Kip, the ordinance has been cited...I guess you chose not to read it (again)...
Chris (Kit) Myers
12:15 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012
I believe I was probably typing my thanks to you for citing the ordinance when you posted yout last comment.