Older Kent School Buses Cleaning up Their Act
EPA grant supports filter system on diesel exhaust
Fourteen of Kent's school buses are cleaning up their act this summer thanks to a grant from the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency.
Kent City Schools will get a $14,798 grant to reduce diesel exhaust emissions in 14 of the district's 32 buses courtesy the EPA Clean Diesel School Bus Fund.
Jim Soyars, director of business services for the school district, said a contractor will retrofit the buses with a different exhaust system to capture more of the particulate matter emitted by diesel exhaust.
Soyars said they have to wait until the new school fiscal year starts July 1 to start the process, but he expects the buses will be emitting much cleaner exhaust in time for the start of the school year.
"With just 14 buses they should be able to crank it out before the first day of school," he said. "Basically it’s going to grab a lot more of the particulate that comes out of the exhaust."
The buses being retrofitted range in model year age from 1999 to 2003. The rest of the district's buses are newer, Soyars said.
The cost to the district is minimal. Soyars said they estimate the district will only have to pay about $200 to reduce emissions on the buses.
He said the district saw the money was available and wanted to reduce the emissions for students, staff and the community.
"There was no mandate, and this program has been around for a while. But we really felt it wasn’t going to cost the district a whole lot and we were going to get a lot of bang for our buck."
Robin Anderson
7:44 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
How's about some "regional cooperation" between the City of Kent, PARTA & KSU in an attempt to transition the fuel for such public transportation from strictly petroleum products to biodiesel and/or natural gas.
Jon Ridinger
3:56 pm on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
PARTA is already using bio-based fuels according to their website: http://www.partaonline.org/pr081203a.html. Neither the city nor the university operate public transit systems, though. The university sold Campus Bus several years ago to PARTA.
Robin Anderson
6:03 pm on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Yes, but the City of Kent, the KCSD & the University all operate a fleet of vehicles that could be phased into either biodiesel or natural gas mode. A central filling station used by these public entities could also be used by local citizens seeking a similar conversion...which might even prompt some local private enterprises into selling same.
Jon Ridinger
2:15 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Ah OK; I was responding to your earlier mention of "for such public transportation" since I don't think anyone would classify the city's and university's fleets as "public transportation". :)
As for your later comment, a central filling station sounds great, but there are several reasons why it likely wouldn't work, the largest being "who would pay for it?" on top of logistical problems such a facility would create for PARTA, KSU, the city, and the schools.
I am glad the district was able to take advantage of this grant. Having the buses run a little cleaner is definitely a GOOD thing!
Robin Anderson
9:04 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Sorry, Jon; poor wording on my part. I absolutely agree with you that any improvement in such emmisions is a good thing.
I was just wondering, grant monnies being what they are...the need for fuel being what it is...at the very least, couldn't the individual entities I mentioned(I forgot Portage County) all work toward the use of the more environment-friendly biofuel, especailly if they have their own refuelling stations? KSU's School of Technology cru, already responsible for creating an all-electric Ford Ranger pick-up truck, could handle the specifics of any retrofitting needed to current straight-diesel-fuel vehicles. An untold quantity of used fryer oil could be recycled from the various eateries around Kent. Folk in the area who already own diesel-powered vehicles could receive aid in retrofitting same and gain access to a local refueling station such as the one at KSU's CE&O on Summit Street or PARTA's(wherever it is located).
http://www.cleandieseldelivers.com/ABOUT%20US/Support%20Clean%20Diesel.aspx
Jon Ridinger
10:23 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
It's a noble cause, but there are definitely logistical and financial problems that likely prevent this from happening. The biggest is simply cost. Even if some grants are available, it's doubtful there are any the could even cover half of the enormous cost to retrofit (and in some cases replace) engines in fleets of vehicles. None of the entitites in this area are in a position to afford this, even together (especially since they all get their money from the same source: the taxpayers). Add to that the "aid" you mentioned to private drivers who want help and you have an even more expensive project.
And while having public access to filling areas at PARTA, KSU, Kent, or the schools sounds nice and easy, it would create a logistical headache and additional security and maintenance costs for those entities. If it was something they wanted to do, they would already allow public access for the fuels currently available. They don't because they have the fueling areas there to increase efficiency for their fleets and decrease fuel costs by buying fuel in bulk and refueling on-site.
I am all for replacing older vehichles at the scheduled time with ones that are more fuel efficient and/or biofuel-capable or like here where the district got the grant to help the older buses. In other words, a gradual changeover within the budget. If grants can be acquired, great!
James Thomas
11:43 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Fly in the ointment,
Regional Cooperation - good
Biofuels - good
Carbon D emissions reduction - ?????
Unintended Consequences - bad
Has anyone connected the dots about catalytic converters?
They convert other gases to harmless carbon dioxide and are standard on every vehicle running today.
Are we nuts or what?
Really want to fuel debate on this so shoot me down RA if you can.
Robin Anderson
3:30 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Ah...the clarion call, eh, JT?
From Wikipedia(groan!)..."It is often reported that Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil. Diesel stated in his published papers, "at the Paris Exhibition in 1900 (Exposition Universelle) there was shown by the Otto Company a small diesel engine, which, at the request of the French Government ran on Arachide (earth-nut or pea-nut) oil (see biodiesel), and worked so smoothly that only a few people were aware of it. The engine was constructed for using mineral oil, and was then worked on vegetable oil without any alterations being made... Diesel himself later conducted related tests and appeared supportive of the idea.[56]"
From the carbonfotprint web-site..."Biodiesel is a fuel that can be used in any diesel powered vehicle. It is biodegradable and non-toxic. Biodiesel is a fantastic way of reducing your carbon footprint as it only releases the carbon dioxide that the plants absorbed whilst growing, therefore there is no negative impact on the carbon cycle."..."What is a Carbon Offset?"...something akin to planting a tree...or a peanut...I'd guess.
Finally, we have the extensive knowledge gained through the thoughtful research of George Washington Carver re the lowly "goober".
James Thomas
5:00 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
From my comment you will notice I've nothing against biofuels. There are good reasons to adapt to them in both a mechanical and supply arena (can be homemade). However the necessity of reducing the carbon footprint of something is not a high priority on my list of things to do. And before you get your hackles up I can honestly say my footprint is probably lower than most Americans, certainly less than Al Gore's or Nancy Pelosi's, but in response to common sense economic choices. If I had their money maybe I would do about as well as they do.
Robin Anderson
7:30 am on Monday, June 20, 2011
Hey! I resemble that remark, JT!
In any case, there's no reason why you & others shouldn't benefit from an eco-freindly life style. Unfortunately, business interests being what they are, it's hard to find a "twofer" in anything of a national scale now-a-days. Diesel fuel is already treated as the "red-headed-step-child" by our auto industry. I don't have the specifics, but it's also a fine source of additional taxes/hidden inflation in our society given the fact that it bears a significantly higher tax burden than gasoline. Then, to top it off, you got the decentralization of power that "home-grown" biofuel represents. Forget the fact that we're ignoring yet another source of home-grown fuel self-sufficiency, eh?
James Thomas
2:30 pm on Monday, June 20, 2011
As a famous American once said,
"Now hold on one pea-pickin minute here". What"s up with the "red-headed-step-child" crack? Yes, I honestly have red hair and a step parent. How did you know? What? Am I some sort of endangered group here? Are there government benefits involved? Are you implying I have a resemblence to gas?
I hadn't thought about all the "home grown" aspects which would certainly promote the idea in my mind. I would just be wary of any tax liability that making your own fuel would cause. You can bet that there will be taxing entities with their hands out if you do it yourself.
Robin Anderson
4:42 pm on Monday, June 20, 2011
Who knows why the "powers-that-be" have seen fit to establish different tax rates for the likes of such American staples as beer, wine or liquor, eh?(Keeps the lobyists off the unemployment rolls, I'd guess) Fortunately, they were wise enough to "allow" for a non-tax status for the home-brewed stuff with a limit on production for personal use, of course.
A fine example of home-grown, environmentaly friendly diversity at the local(corporate) level might be found here: http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/sustainability/other-sustainability-projects
"We continually challenge the paradigm of ‘Take, Make, Waste’ to a more sustainable and common sense approach of ‘Take, Make, Remake.’ We try to replicate nature’s ‘zero waste’ cycle by turning our waste into viable products." Patrick Conway, GLBC Co-Owner...
...which results in such endeavors as: "ALTERNATIVE FUELS (STRAIGHT VEGETABLE OIL)
To help reduce our carbon footprint (well, tire tread), our beer delivery truck and “Fatty Wagon” shuttle bus run on straight vegetable oil - a renewable fuel made from our reclaimed and filtered restaurant oil."
James Thomas
2:53 pm on Monday, June 20, 2011
Seriously RA,
I thought your anology was hysterical considering I am in fact a "red-headed-step-child".
Robin Anderson
4:14 pm on Monday, June 20, 2011
Did I happen to mention my propensity for watching The Tonight Show & Carnac the Magnificent?
James Thomas
6:57 pm on Monday, June 20, 2011
News article on this subject, hope the link works
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/20/energy-in-america-california-drives-full-up-on-locally-produced-biofuel/
Robin Anderson
8:10 pm on Monday, June 20, 2011
Thanks for that informative bit of news, JT.
The Five Guys Burgers joint at Chapel Hill Plaza promotes the idea that they use 100% peanut oil in their operation...I wonder what they do with the used oil? What does KSU Dining Services & all the eateries downtown do with their used cooking oil...pay to have it hauled away as trash? If the KSU School of Technology cru can convert a Ford Ranger pickup truck to run totally on electric IMAGINE what they could do as a demo project with biofuel?
James Thomas
10:47 pm on Monday, June 20, 2011
RA,
I am awed by the Red Green Carnac connection.