Should the CCW carriers be required to post a minimum bond to cover the financial liability of accidentally causing the injury/death of an innocent bystander or will they be allowed to seek sanctuary in the murky legalese of our bankruptcy laws...or will they next seek the protection of a "good Samaritan act"?

Is the police chief saying that she will relinquish her weapon in an establishment that bans guns? While on duty? Off duty? I understand the article except for the chief's last statement.

Additionally, calling any bill "slippery slope" legislation is untenable whether it be urban hens that lead to backyard cows or concealed carry rights that lead to issuing concealed carry permits to felons. If the chief believes it will be difficult to enforce the sobriety of those carrying a concealed weapon, I see the point. Saying that expanding concealed carry territory will lead to violent offenders being issued permits is pointless.

The law helps protect people from 1) leaving an establishment, criminals know its illegal to carry in an alcohol establishment, they can attack you while leaving... 2) it protects agasint leaving your firearm sitting in an unprotected vehicle. Would you rtaher have a law abiding CCW holder carrying their weapon while not dirnking, or have a criminal who broke into a vehicle and stole it to have it!?
Not to mention, police think they are so much better and safer than the public. I have not seen that in my lifetime! Police carry into bars, and many other places that the public cannot. How many have been corrupt, and done illegal things? Too many to list. Police are not above the law.
Hard to enforce!? what about drunk driving!? not to mention there are a billion times more problems with driving drunk than there has EVER been with CCW holders carrying ANYWHERE.
Police fail to realize that there are few if any problems with CCW holders harming anyone. Not to mention the decreased crime rates ever since states have been legalizing concealed carry.
This is no different than me carrying into any other establishment, it is against the law to drink while carrying, and considering CCW holders are law abiding, and have no felonies, they will not drink while carrying.

People have been legally carrying concealed firearms for years, and how many "innocent bystanders" have you seen shot or injured!? honestly, this is not going to bring in trouble and shooting into every bar and restaurant!? This law will also NOT ALLOW criminals to obtain CCW permits! It has nothing to do with changing how to obtain a CCW license!
And you are right about one thing Laurel, they will not relinguish their firearms, they think they are above the laws.
Again, i believe the real argument is in changing Ohios Definition of Restaurant that serves alcohol, and bar.
However, i highly doubt many CCW holders will carry into a bar, considering they cannot drink, there would really not be much of a point to go there while carrying.
It is intended for Restuarants that serve alcohol!
Lets also look into the other states that allow carrying into bars. How many problems have they had? Not many, or Ohio wouldnt have even thought about adding this as a law.

Lastly, Matt, why don't you interview some people who actually support the issue, and know what they are talking about!?

Chief Lee,
"I don’t think that (permit holders') rights are being intruded upon by it being permitted or not permitted," Lee said. "That said, I think the law should stay the same. This law would put Ohio in the top five states that have the most progressive (concealed-carry) laws out there. And I just don’t think that’s where we want to be or need to be.”

You should stop here

"I don’t think

"In an emergency when seconds count, the police are just minutes away"

Unless they are writing a speeding ticket.
Gotta keep the revenue flowing, ya know.

ALL YOU LIBERALS ARE RISKING MY LIFE! Dont worry I will send you the bill for my funeral because you are deciding that I am not grown up enough to protect myself from the crazy drunk at the bar who one day decides he is going to use me for target practice. Or how about the one time when the guy sitting behind me in the booth at Applebees decides he doesnt like my face and turns my wife and kid into swiss cheese with his new 9mm Barretta he just had to have. I dont care alcohol or not, if someone threatens me or my family I HAVE THE GOD GIVEN RIGHT to protect myself. One final thing to all you naysayers, it may not happen to you but chances are it will happen to someone you know, but when you find yourself in a bar in a life or death situation, or even in a restaurant that serves alcohol, dont worry I'm sure you'll be ok because you know that all the LEGALLY obtained CCW carriers have either left there weapon in the car or at home, so when you are staring down the barrel of the guy who isnt bound by that NO CCW sign you remember YOU DID THIS! My daughter thanks you for protecting her from all the backround checked, trained, certified, and rechecked gun carriers, but NOT the psychos who shoot our politicians and children. Thanks, thanks again.

From the article:
"The proposed law would prohibit someone from drinking if they carry their gun into a bar or restaurant. Violators would face a felony charge if caught. But law enforcement agencies, and bar owners, say enforcing that would be extremely difficult."

Alrosa Villa in Columbus checks for weapons. They also did a pat-down when I went to a concert at Nationwide Arena in downtown Columbus. What's stopping everyone else? Then again, aside from the occasional Applebees, BW3s, Cheeseburger In Paradise, or Movie Tavern, I don't frequent many places that have Class D liquor licenses, so maybe bars and nightclubs already are and I just don't know it?

This isn't an issue of not being able to enforce the law, not including the fact that no business has a legal obligation to do so (they're not Law ENFORCEMENT Officers). This is an issue of business owners not wanting to inconvenience EVERYONE that comes into their establishment to see if they are bringing in a weapon. But that's their choice, which they are free to make.

In my opinion, if a business is trying to keep out weapons by posting a sign, they should be required to check everyone who enters for weapons, otherwise all they're doing is depending on the honor system, which only the honest (law abiding) will obey.

@J. Clifford paranoid much? this is KENT.. knock off the drama.

Hey Drew, go ask a cop.
As it is now, in Akron it's a every day occurance in establishments. The criminal element strikes where they feel they have little risk of being confronted . To think that this can't happen in Kent is just denial , in the world of psychology this denial is known as "Normalcy Bias".
It may amaze a lot of you out there that there are approx. 215,000 CCWs in this state and is increasing by approx. 13000 every three months. When you have places that don't allow concealed carry, those are the places that the atrocities are committed and no one can defend themselves. those places are reffered to as the new killing fields.
Watch reality TV "First 48" see for yourself that we don't live in a warm fuzzy place .

There is GANG ACTIVITY in warm fuzzy Kent But the city keeps the reports of it under wraps (doesnt want city to look bad, Property values would decline even more and buisnesses wouldnt want to locate here etc). A lot of the graffiti (the warm fuzzy people call it ART) is gang related territorial markings.
So Drew do you remember when a Pizza delivery kid was shot and killed at Collage Towers , do you remember the two shootings at Al's Bar , do you remember when the original El Dorado bar owner shot and killed an armed robber in his bar, Do you remember the psycho that shot and killed a janitor at KSU (the police cornered him and had to kill him), Do you remember the armed robbery last week of a pizza delivery kid (the police caught her ). My personal experience in a bar was when a guy pulled a gun in a pool game on a friend of mine in Lynn's bar and got a pool stick broken across his forehead. The point im trying to make is that KENT IS NOT IMMUNE TO VIOLENT CRIME. So get out of dreamland.

oh shut it. just admit you're scared of black people and move on dude...

Like other sets of habits, emotions had to be learned. So, fear was not an instinctive reaction to phylogenetically predetermined objects or events, but was a learned response occurring on 'signals' or conditioned stimuli.... Consequently it came as no surprise ... that children shared their mother's fears. This shared community of fear within the family was not due to inheritance of psychic mechanisms: it was learned. After all, the behaviourists pointed out, there was no direct relationship between fear and vulnerability. Indeed, the most defenceless of all human beings (the new-born child) was the least fearful of all God's creatures.

JOANNA BOURKE

b your comments are assinine. Crime has no color.