Cleveland Browns for Sale? What Do You Think of the Rumors?
The team’s owner, Randy Lerner, has said he is in conversations with Jimmy Haslam, who is “interested in making an investment.”
Updated, 2:40 p.m.: Fox 8 News Cleveland reports that Randy Lerner will sell his controlling interest in the Cleveland Browns.
Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner has confirmed rumors that he is in negotiations with a potential investor, Jimmy Haslam.
According to a release on the Browns' website, Haslam is “interested in making an investment in the Cleveland Browns.”
Crain’s Cleveland Business reports that it is not clear whether the move would make Haslam a majority or minority owner in the team if it goes through. But Fox 8 reported Friday that team president Mike Holmgrem has confirmed that Lerner is selling controlling interest in the Browns.
According to the release from the Browns, Lerner and Haslam plan to keep details of the negotiations private and will try to prevent it from disrupting the organization or the team.
Cleveland.com has some details on Haslam, the president of Pilot Flying J and a minority owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
The Steelers have a Q and A with Haslam on its website, where Haslam reports that he is “1,000 percent a Steelers fan!” (Um, should Browns fans be worried?)
What do you think will happen as these negotiations move forward? Would you like to see the Browns under new ownership or do you think Lerner has been doing a good job? Tell us in the comments.
G Soboslay
12:16 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
I have said, since the day I heard Learner owned a soccer team in England, that, over time, the BROWNS WILL evolve into ENGLAND. If the fans get disenfranchised, they won't buy tickets, jackets, tee shirts, etc., and loss of revenue will be a business decision to take them where the money is. REVOLUTION (moving to Baltimore QUICKLY) didn't work but EVOLUTION (purposfully do things that erode the fan base so they stop supporting the Browns and spending money or attending) WILL WORK. WhoEVER owns a bit of either the stadium in England and or the American Football team to move to England WILL MAKE A FORTUNE!!!!!
Adam C. Miller
3:02 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
The 'Browns' won a Super Bowl in Baltimore... how many have they won in Cleveland?
Adam C. Miller
3:03 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
It's just a matter of time before they move again!
Terry
3:35 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
To the buyer > SAVE YOUR MONEY !!!!!! Open more gas stations and reap REAL rewards ...
Steve
5:30 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
@Terry- it's not the gas stations that reap the REAL rewards, It's the major oil companies that do. Do some research, please.
I.M. Wright
3:39 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
It's a done deal, pending NFL's approval. And the team will NOT go anywhere. No owner, in their right mind, would move this team away knowing how die-hard this fan base is.
After all, the Browns have been putting a crappy product on the field since their return in '99, and the place still packs them in (although the past couple of years, litterally, not so much, but still). Would you move them knowing you just need to put a decent product on the field and make $$$?
Adam C. Miller
6:58 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
What fans? How many times in the last 10 years did the Browns and Cleveland Clinic have to BUY remaining tickets to avoid blackouts?
I.M. Wright
9:38 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
It has not been that many games over the past 12-13 years.
Steve
5:28 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
@-I.M.Wright. Lerner purchased the team for say 500mil. and can sell it for 900mil. Not a bad investment, fans, what fans? They aren't going to purchase it. I.M. He has a great return on his investment, could you do as well? He can afford to break the lease with Cleveland, and still come out WAYYYYYYYY ahead. It's all business, nothing more, nothing less...
Larry L. Beane
6:31 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Thats what LeBron said!!! And sure enough, we got the business.
Adam C. Miller
6:59 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
He'll BREAK the lease within 10 years... Bye Bye Clowns!
I.M. Wright
9:37 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
"fans, what fans?"
Uhh...what?!? You're not getting what I was writing. I don't care who paid for what when. That's irrelevant to my comments.
People were buying tickets and flocking to the stadium for almost a decade after they returned. It was only until recently that people in NEOhio started to get wise and stopped going.
Anyone who has remotely paid attention to the NFL in the US knows how die-hard NE Ohio is for football. It's obvious you're not aware of the contract the city has with the NFL & the Cleveland Browns organization. They aren't going to be leaving Cleveland anytime in the near future (I see us losing the Indians first, to be honest). You can bank on it.
Fans in this town always had excuses why season after season they continued to fork out good $$ for a crappy product. Meanwhile, the Indians have a 5 game losing streak and people abandon the Tribe. "Oh, we're a football town". A town full of excuse-making fools.
stan jastrab
7:34 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
I am 60 years old. I have a Browns tatoo on my arm. I only pray to God above that I live long enough to see a Browns superbowl.
James Thomas
10:14 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Stan,
I'm a Cubs fan. Good Luck with that.
Terry
7:22 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Steve ... do some research on the Haslam family ... they own GAS STATIONS (Travel stations) NOT major oil companies and are worth billions ...
Steve
1:11 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
I agree with you Terry, but here in the north they would be called convenience food stores, with a few gas pumps that doesn't make a profit. It's the food...
Geoffrey Watson
8:15 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Stan, I am 65 years old and getting even more worried if I will ever see the Browns in the superbowl. I hope they are on the right track to win in the next couple of years. Only time will tell.
Myron Holley
8:20 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Would love to see the browns go into the play offs. Iron mike was a good choice. Now let him do his thing. Get Farve as a office coordinator. With the coach. It could go. Bring in many of the old packer coaching staff and quit playing around, Or just sell them and be done with the B.S.
The original Bill
9:08 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Haslam is good friends with Bill Cowher. Just sayin'
I.M. Wright
9:39 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
So?
Haslam will have to sell his interests in the Steelers.
The original Bill
4:19 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Haslam will have to sell his interest in the Steelers to buy the Browns. NFL bylaws prohibit owning interest in more than one team.
Linda UmBayemake
12:00 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Let's wonder why there is a big change which always causes a uproar with fans and players before each season. It's like Lerner has set the Browns up for failure each year. If his heart is not into football like his forefathers he needs to get out the game. We've had good coaches that were'nt given a chance, he just threw them out now this. What else is in store to help the Browns fail. Maybe Lerner is really a Steeler's fan,
Tom Cooper
12:00 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
I DO NOT want anyone who is a stiller fan touching any thing releated to the Browns. I wouldn't trust this arrogant pi_ _ burg ignoramus leading the Browns anymore than the classless Adam C. Miller.
he says he is a "1,000% stillers fan" ? GOOD - stay TF out of Cleveland
We are NOW, finally, making progress, without any help from pi_ _ burg, and this guy is coming in here to be another monkey wrench in the train wreck Modell left behind? We don't need any "yinzers" in C-town, including the over-rated Billy boy Cowher, to cause us start us all over AGAIN!
Steve
1:18 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
@Tom- maybe that's why PNC banks from Pittsburgh, bought out all OUR NCB's. Maybe they will try to combine our states as one, as they will now have the leverage to do just that.
Linda UmBayemake
1:01 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
For one thing Stillers is incorrect it is spelled Steelers. Don't blame the Steelers blame Lerner this is his scenario. He put it out there or the man would not be inquiring. They have not done well since they changed from the strong Dog logo to a the common helmet and the changes three and four times a year. You got a problem with what is going on send a letter to Lerner, he will respond.
Buckeyecoop
1:23 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Linda -
1. Try lightening up. If you have you ever heard anyone born and raised in Pittsburgh refer to the NFL football team there, trust me - is is "stillers" (the lower case is mychoice ;-)).
2. I am a season ticket holder and I am well aware of what short comings Lerner and those around the team have. The BIGGEST problem Lerner has foisted on the Browns is the constant, incessant change of leadership, both in the front office and on the field. This is not to say some changes were not necessary, but at the same time, there has been no consistency of any program direction since the Browns returned.
3. If you want to criticise something, you really should do some research on the subject you are addressing. The Browns have NEVER officially had a dog for their logo. By the way - did I spell "yinzer" correctly? or did you not feel like looking that up either.
4. I HAVE written Randy Lerner - so what? it is a Forum Linda. Does that mean I am not allowed to comment here?
5. I have some good friends who are stiller fans. The have the class to understand that Modell did to this city has nothing to do with the rivalry between the Browns and the stillers - in other words, they don't hang around sports forums hoping they can make an ignorant comment about Browns fans
J Lord
2:04 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
The "Super Bowl" is just a name. Cleveland won the NFL championship in its first NFL season, 1950 and followed by two more in 1954 and 1955.
Anthony Miller
2:55 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Not only do we need a new owner, we need to change the uniforms - helmets!
Buckeyecoop
3:40 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
When we found the Browns were going to come back, that is exactly what I wanted, Anthony. I wanted the new team, though it was in Cleveland to put the Browns great history to rest and name the new team ( and colors) after the tradition rich history of pro Football in NE Ohio, and name the new team the Cleveland Bulldogs, (the Canton Bulldogs were a franchise in the original root league of the NFL), with, of course, the Bulldog mascot - and have the colors of Crimson and Black (after Canton McKinley's colors). And - of course, the national Football Hall of Fame is located just south of Cleveland in Canton, Ohio. It seemed like a natural.
I beleive what happened is that Mayor White was so afraid if the Browns name and colors were transferred with the team, that the public would not support the new team.
Personally, though, now, I think that ship has sailed, Anthony. I think before the Browns name and logos, etc, are retired, we need to redeem our former greatness, win at least one SB. After that, if and when the team goes in such putrid state as it has been for 11 years, and there is a new owner, then I would support your suggestion again.
Linda UmBayemake
11:03 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Mascot or Logo the dog was on everything. Leather jackets, shirts, hats and even underwear. You could be proud of the dog and the team played like a junkyard dog. I have been a fan since 1953 and my mother has been a fan almost from their beginnings and still is a fan and she is 90.
Buckeyecoop
12:01 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Linda Um...-
you are just digging yourself a deeper hole. The reference to the Browns as dogs, (or "Dawgs") never appeared anywhere until the mid 80's. The original term was begun by Hanford Dixon and Frank Minifield when fans in the Bleachers could hear them "barking" at the opponents they were covering. Hanford Dixon, drafted in 1981, is the one who, with Minnifiedl in '84, referred to bleachers as the Dawg Pound becuase the fans there began to also chant "woof - woof", etc, along with Dixon and Minnifield.
Sorry, Linda if you think your age, and being a fan for years, counts over actual facts, but the Dog image has never appeared on ANY official licensed Browns or NFL gear, stationary or helmet until then,and in reality, officialy not until the teamcame back because Modell would not allow it. I elieve there may have been a year when he allowed others to use it, but then threatened to sue.
J Lord
4:03 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Like i said, the "Super Bowl" is just a name. Cleveland won the NFL championship in its first NFL season, 1950 and followed by two more in 1954 and 1955.
Buckeyecoop
4:53 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
yes, you are correct, J - good pooint
J Lord
4:57 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Oops, and in 1964!
THOMAS KANE
7:12 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
CLEVELAND BROWNS;AT THIS POINT WHO CARES?I HAVE BEEN AN AVID FAN SINCE 1961 WHEN I WAS ABOUT 6. SINCE MODELL SHOWED US WHAT WAS IMPORTANT AND NOW LERNER IS DOING THE SAME. WHAT DOES IT PAY TOO BE A BROWNS FAN ANYMORE?OUTSIDE OF A FEW STANDOUTS THEY HAVE PUT NOTHING BUT CRAP AND DISAPPOINTMENT ON THE FIELD SINCE 99.2010 WAS THE ONLY CREDIBLE YEAR.BUT LIKE THE MAN SAID ''BUSINESS IS BUSINESS''.IT HAS NO FAN FEELING OR LOYALTY SO WHY SHOULD I ANYMORE?WHAT ARE THE PLAYERS SAYING?
Buckeyecoop
12:00 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Linda Um...-
you are just digging yourself a deeper hole. The reference to the Browns as dogs, (or "Dawgs") never appeared anywhere until the mid 80's. The original term was begun by Hanford Dixon and Frank Minifield when fans in the Bleachers could hear them "barking" at the opponents they were covering. Hanford Dixon, drafted in 1981, is the one who, with Minnifiedl in '84, referred to bleachers as the Dawg Pound becuase the fans there began to also chant "woof - woof", etc, along with Dixon and Minnifield.
Sorry, Linda if you think your age, and being a fan for years, counts over actual facts, but the Dog image has never appeared on ANY official licensed Browns or NFL gear, stationary or helmet until then,and in reality, officialy not until the teamcame back because Modell would not allow it. I elieve there may have been a year when he allowed others to use it, but then threatened to sue.
People who produced apparel and such have no license to the helmet have taken to making several style "Dawg" insignia's for their clothing - people love them and I have at least three different style dogs on hats and shirts - but they ar enot in any way official Browns or NFL logo's.
Again - I suggest you find some facts before you make statements and represent them to be factual.
Glad your Grandma is still a great Browns fan at 90. So is my Father -in-law at 93!
Dave
8:44 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Write to Randy Lerner, ... Ya good luck with that!
Its just nice to see SOMEONE who wants to invest in Cleveland. Period. Will he do better? Unknown. But his money might just help our "maybe next year" team.
Linda UmBayemake
9:28 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
I have bought many items from leather coats to hats to dog items from the official Browns store in Berea and online. So check your facts. And I did not say the dog picture was on in the beginning it has been on a long time which 1980 is a long time. Lighten up nothing I lived in Pittsburgh quite a while my family base is there and no one I knew pronounced Steelers anything but Steelers. Maybe it depended on what side of town you lived on. By the way my age has nothing to do with, so have a good day.
Linda UmBayemake
9:31 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Hi Dave, I have written to deceased Lerner and young Lerner. Both have replied, the elder Lerner called me when I lived in Kentucky because he said my letter was so funny. But I agree with you maybe new money will help give the Browns the edge they need, something should.